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  1. Ed Schloz says

    Here is hoping you make it! I’m sure you will. When your parents retire, will you kids be able or want to join you to continue your farm? I hope they do.

  2. Old Blue Silo (@oldbluesilo) says

    I will admit that I am guilty of thinking we could purchase more ground if the large farmers around us weren’t driving the prices up a few years ago. I have had a change in heart over the last year. We are not the ones taking the risk like they are! They’re doing something right and they deserve it. On the other hand, I happen to like our small farm size. I know it doesn’t allow my husband to farm full time as he wishes but we don’t have a lot invested in our machinery, all of our ground is paid for and it’s easy to sleep at night. As much as I’d like to grow, I’m afraid to say I’m afraid to take the risk that some of the large farmers had to take years back to get where they are today to support their families! I believe strongly that it takes all types to make the world go round. Our size definitely works for us! As long as the ground isn’t going to another subdivision or big box store or highway, I don’t care what size farmer picks it up! 🙂

    • Nesikep says

      The analogy of comparing farmland to cars is flawed.. I think it is a reasonable argument to say corporations, or whatever are driving the price of farmland up beyond the reach of ‘ordinary’ people..
      They make new cars every day, god stopped making land a long time ago, there’s a limited supply of it, and as monetary inflation is rampant, you can never save enough money to ever buy land.

      • Anne says

        agree. Always more cars, not more land. Also investors buy land instead of putting money in the bank. Can’t blame them, I do it myself.

  3. Patti shinn says

    Nicely said. My husband and I married 14 years ago.. Had 260 cows 2 employees… We now have 685 cows and 9 employees. We have twin boys who we want to see farm IF they want so we have to get debt paid down and have farm ready for them in 15 years .. We had to expand in order to ‘have a life’. With no other family in the business now to milk we hire outsiders in order that we get to get away at times. Plus getting over 2009 and 2012 has been a challenge. Farming is not for the faint of heart whether you are small or large! BUT it is what my hubby wants to do and I’ll support that dream.

  4. Tara Daniels says

    Great post Carrie! Thank you for taking the time to explain the difference and reasons why some farms are larger than others! You are a great Advocate to the Agriculture industry!

  5. Marybeth Feutz says

    Even if pigs DID grow on trees, you would have to buy the seedling pig-trees, plant the trees, buy fertilizer, and work to keep the trees healthy and growing. Then you would have to wait (likely years) to be able to “harvest” your crop of pigs, so you could start raising pigs. Or you would have to pay someone to buy the pigs that they grew from the seedling pig-tree. So even if pigs grew on trees, they still aren’t free! 😉

    • dairycarrie says

      We have collected on crop insurance. That’s a federal program that we pay into and collect from if we meet criteria if we have a weather event that destroys our crops. It works about the same as any other insurance plan.

  6. Sarah [NurseLovesFarmer.com] says

    I think it is by the grace of God alone that my husband is the 4th generation to farm this land when he was the only son and his father and grandfather before him were the only boys in the family. We’re raising the 5th generation and we will support them in whatever they want to do, but we sure hope they’ll want to farm!

  7. abbygirlblog says

    Excellent overview of the big Ag vs. small farm topic. We are CA citrus growers, but the basics are similar, including hard work, good management, keeping up with technology, etc. My husband is a 3rd generation grower, and we are grateful that our daughter and her husband, after having other careers, moved nearby and took over the business two years ago. They are working hard, making some changes, and they are navigating the conventional vs. organic issues.
    I enjoy your blog. It’s good to know what’s going on in other areas of Ag.
    Thank you!

    • Deb says

      Janice, please do respond. Having just read “This ain’t normal” about farming smaller and lighter on the land, I would like to see another side to explain that trend.

  8. Katie Stockstill-Sawyer says

    Great list and all very true. My husband and I continue to farm to provide a farm for our children to return to when they grow up. We want them to be able to return to the farm and raise a family just like we did, and we know that growth is the only way that can happen. Bigger isn’t bad in agriculture. Our farm’s growth is a natural result of my husband’s ambition, hard work and determination.

  9. Leah James (@PineValleyDairy) says


    Great post! Another reason to go along with narrow profit margins is the fact that we as producers of the product have no control what so ever over what we are paid for our product…

    My husband and I are milking 150 cows with my in-laws in WI and also struggle with the, ‘what do we do now’ question in regards to making a comfortable living with the volatility on both the income and expense side of being a ‘small’ dairy farmer.


  10. Sara Hewitt says

    We have to get bigger in order for all of us to come back. People always sound shocked when we tell them our farm size. But our farm supports 3 families. My husband works full time off the farm, as do I, and my mother-in-law works part-time off the farm, because our farm still isn’t big enough to support us all coming back full-time. It is what it is in that sense, but we sincerely hope it will be there for the next generation to come back to. I support all farms big or small, but I’m sure all of our end goals for what we want our farm to look like and do is very different. I wish more people would understand that part- that not ever farm is the same, nor can it be. Thanks for writing a great piece again Carrie!

  11. Heidi Hansen says

    I’m 55 and just establishing a winery with my son who will be 27 in August. He is the future of agriculture. Both of us have day jobs and have to do all the work evenings and weekends. He was very reticent about getting started but I told him we were building something for (hopefully) his future kids and their kids. We may always have to work off the farm but anything worth having is worth working hard for. And maybe someday we will take on Gallo. 🙂

    • Beth DeRoos says

      Living in California wine country everyone around me seems to have a small vineyard for homemade wine. We love it. Also our olive trees. And I love with a passion those who grow organic fruits and vegetables, since we are vegetarian. Cannot think of a fruit or vegetables we do not love.

  12. Farmer Scratch says

    Carrie, I would suggest you become a LLP or LLC. Being a partnership leaves your personal assets at risk if something happens with the farm.

    Another thing that people don’t realize is that your farm needs to be able to deal with all the regulatory issues. This takes management time. Everything from what you feed your animals to how you manage your employees is covered by reams of regulation. You have to cover the overhead of learning all that or hiring people to help in those areas.

    • dairycarrie says

      We are actually set up as an LLP. But we still farm in partnership with the inlaws. We work together that equals a partnership. 😉

  13. McAndrewFarms says

    I’m the 4th generation on my families land and my brother is about to turn 50 this year and looking into taking over the family farm from our parents in a few years. He works off the farm full time and only helps out in the evenings and weekends. None of our kids have shown interest in farming, so he and I are trying to see what would work to keep the land in the family. My husband grew up in a big city, but would love to start farming full time. My parents farm 1000+ acres, but not all of it is owned by them. They have been asked by other area farmers who trust their farming techniques to help farm their acres and it seems to work out. They are conventional farmers but farm as responsibly as possible. I agree, it does take all types of farmers to grow the food to feed the world. If we didn’t have small, medium, large, conventional, organic and other types of farms, there would be a lot of hungry people. I don’t believe only one type of farm or one method of farming is the answer. We don’t all look the same or hold the same job in life, why should farms all be the same?

    • dairycarrie says

      Neither does Organic, Small, Local or any other buzz word label placed on farms.

      • jerry anderson says

        That’s nonsense! Limited liability means you can walk away from your debts scott free with no recourse from your creditors That makes sense for people who insist on never being out of debt, ever!

        • dairycarrie says

          Jerry, I appreciate your comments but I’m going to work with and trust the people who know our farms full picture rather than comments from people I don’t know on the internet.

  14. Nico says

    It’s also very difficult to be a small row crop farmer. A tractor and a combine are going to set you back several hundred thousand. It has also gotten much easier to be a large farmer. All the equipment has gotten larger. Biotech seeds allow you to back off management a little bit more as well. One person can manage 1000 acres of corn and soy. Years ago there would have been no way. Not with a 30HP tractor, single row combine, and a 4 row cultivator.

  15. Steve says

    “They won’t give you a million dollar loan to build a barn for 22 cows because 22 cows would never be able to generate enough income to pay the bank back. Want a shop to work on your tractor? You better be able to show the bank that you can make the loan payments.”

    Short of being a multimillionaire, how would someone who’s family does not currently own land or farm get into farming? While the current farm kids often leave for the city, the following generation sometimes wants to come back, but the price of entry has gotten too high. You might not be able to make a profit with 22 cows, but folks need to start somewhere, and since they got rid of the Class B Dairy’s you cannot even make cheese and sell it from a couple of cows. Used to be you could do that, start as a hobby farm with a day job, and then, if you were good at it and built up a clientele, you could add cows and equipment over time and maybe turn to farming full time at some point. When a smaller farm does come up for sale, the combined price of land, home, and equipment puts the selling price out of reach of most middle class folks, so the larger farm next door often ends up gobbling it up…and the number of farmers decreases.

    • Ashley says

      In Arkansas, and some other states, you can do just that. We can sell up to 500 gallons of raw milk off the farm, goat or cow, no legal crap. But I would have no interest in getting bigger. Then you get into a middle man and waning profit margins. Much of why farms are so big is people are not buying direct from the farmer like we should. Better product for the customer, more farmers and farmers actually making a profit.

  16. Jessica says

    Excellent, excellent article. Things we farmers and ranchers know, but first time I’ve seen it all put on paper. Thanks for hitting the nail on the head. We are both 30 and have a “small”, 175 head cow/calf operation, and are already trying to figure out how much we need to grow in order to support our two boys if they decide to join the business down the road. Keep up the good work!

  17. angelajones3949 says

    Hey Carrie, love your post! I have been thinking about writing something similar lately. It makes me so sad the anger that is expressed towards ‘big Ag’ implying that anyone who doesn’t plow with horses or use cab-less tractors is a faceless money hungry corporation that doesn’t care about anything except profit.
    We are a slightly above average size farm for our area but are working towards getting bigger. The reason for that is exactly as you mentioned; the next generation. We sat down with our accountants a couple years ago and they grilled us on the details of our 10 year plan. ‘Where will you be in 10 years?’ and me and my husband both looked at each other and said; we will have 2 boys finished/finishing school and possibly wanting to take part in the farm! 10 years is not a lot of time and so we mapped out a very detailed plan on how much we need to put aside in order to grow enough that this farm can support 3 families by a certain time.
    The unfortunate fact of farming is the small often can’t survive. As you mentioned, there often isn’t a huge profit margin in farming and when a small farmer has a crop failure or other disaster he sometimes has nothing to fall back on. With many children choosing to leave the farm for an easier lifestyle these smaller farmers feel that the amount of work and risk just isn’t worth it anymore and they sell. Farms have to be a certain size to sustain a family without off farm income and to survive the tough years without going broke. We have purchased land from smaller farmers selling because the kids chose other careers, and many retired farmers help us as seasonal staff. Big or small, most farms are family farms and we do care about the land, the environment and the future.

  18. Katie says

    So, if you’re selling milk for $6/gal, and your profit margin is $2/gal, you’re yearly income is $1000/year?

    • Alan Smith says

      $6 / Gal ? That is laughable ! What are milk prices now ? $13-$16 /100 pounds ? As I tell everyone : The folks making the plastic milk jug or the paper label make more money than the poor farmer who made the milk ! AND the Farmer doesn’t get nights & weekends off or paid Holidays or vacations . No , not even sick days off , paid or not ! Farming , esp Dairy is 24/7 /365 , cows are milked 2 or 3 times a day ! Plus fed !
      Another sad /silly thing : what other product is taken from the producer , shipped & consumed by the public 30 days before the producer knows what he is paid for his product 30 days later ? NO OTHER PRODUCT , manufactured or agricultural !

      • dairycarrie says

        Actually Alan, right now we have record high prices for milk and we’re closer to $24-26/100lbs. But that’s just starting to make up for 08-09 when we were lucky to get $10/100lbs.

  19. Dana says

    Great post! The idea of one person farming 1,000 acres of corn & soybeans blows my mind! It also reminds me of how labor-intensive our crop is: sugarcane.

    We farm around 1,000 acres and another family member farms another 1,000 but we do all of the work together. Combined, we employ between 10 and 20 people, depending on the season, with the ten being full-time, and not including the owner of each farm and myself as full-time bookkeeper. At any given time, we can have a combination of 3 harvesters (plus the one soybean combine), a giant spray rig, up to a dozen tractors, a 4-wheeler, and a Gator in the fields. The cost to purchase, maintain, repair, insure, and fuel the equipment alone is astronomical.

    Honestly, we sometimes wonder if we are insane.

    But we are supporting a dozen plus families. And we are no where near a large sugarcane farm!

  20. angorawoolwitch, Dawn says

    Great post and thank you! I grew up on a 40-acre hobby farm, raising Angus cattle. Summers, I worked as a milker on a nearby dairy. I was head milker by the time I was in high school, running 150 head through my parlor–that was about average here in Oregon in the 80’s. I’ve been very unhappy that my parents have been taken in by the “factory farm” nonsense. 🙁 They really believe that farms are owned by huge corporations and are run solely by hired hands. I’ll be printing out your blog post and hoping they’ll see that I really am more in touch with modern farming than they are, even though I only have five acres and my “herd” is Angora rabbits. 🙂

  21. Nellie Dezinski says

    What I’m reading, you are not the big farm that is pushing the small farmer out, you are just an ordinary size farm, like we’ve had for year 100 cow or more, a few hundred acres, etc. The big corporate farms that I hear about pushing others out are the ones usually not owned by families & ones with 1,000 or more acres.

    • dairycarrie says

      No I’m not the big farmer. I’m the small farmer and I don’t believe that big farms are pushing me out.
      As far as big corporate farms go… I’ve been on hundreds of farms from 2 cows to 10,000 cows and not a single one was owned by a corporation. Even the largest farms in our country are owned by families. A 1,000 acre grain farm would be a smaller grain farm. Hub’s best friend and his family own a grain farm and raise crops on about 6,000 acres.
      There are lots of misperceptions out there about large farms and even though we don’t have a big farm I am certainly not anti big farm.

  22. timcandle says

    I live in a completely different world where the farms are getting smaller. We are in a valley where the Amish have decided to relocate. They milk an average 40 cows per farm to sustain an average family size of 8. When a 300 acre farm comes on the market, the Amish buy it and divide it into two farms for two families. One family uses the existing buildings and the second family, often a son or daughter, builds an entirely new set of buildings and just like that, one farm becomes two farms. In our valley, we have watched as at least 20 new dairy farms of 40 cows have grown up from former pastures in the past 10 years and it is very cool to see a once vibrant dairy area that has been dying for years, revitalize itself in such a short time. There isn’t enough space here to describe the economics of why the 40 cow 100 acres Amish dairy farm is successful but trust me when I tell you it is. It is successful because most of them are Organic dairies earning $38 to $40 cwt. I’m friends with many of them and they don’t understand the English mantra of “bigger is better” but that is a conversation for another day.

  23. A near miss says

    The Farmer’s Daughter made a post recently explaining that the inheritance tax hurts farming families too, since Uncle Sam takes a sizable cut when the farm is passed down through generations. Many sell due to lack of free assets with which to pay the bill when someone passes away. This needs to be shared with the general public, because so many of us care! I’m voting straight Democrat, but writing whomever wins to tell them that I want our nation’s farming families covered somehow, so farms aren’t forced to close when someone dies.

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